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I have discovered a new glitch...
Topic Started: Dec 6 2007, 07:12 AM (2,389 Views)
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1. This glitch allows you to effectively counter swamp abyss. (As in, it doesnt affect ground units at all. They can run right through it with no problems whatsoever, aside from a slight drawback.)

2. I'm serious.

3. I'll release the info to the rest of the forum later today, probably.

4. I smell a 10 point bonus. :D
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NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
05:12 AM
1. This glitch allows you to effectively counter swamp abyss. (As in, it doesnt affect ground units at all. They can run right through it with no problems whatsoever, aside from a slight drawback.)

2. I'm serious.

3. I'll release the info to the rest of the forum later today, probably.

4. I smell a 10 point bonus. :D

This is bound to be interesting.

*holds 10 points in hand*

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All right.
Sean tested stuff out with me earlier today after I told him about the swamp abyss counter and he can testify that it works.

Anywho, if a unit is debuffed in speed (With a dark 2 + wind 1 2 or 3), they will be unaffected by swamp abyss. :D

We tried it and seans monsters were all running around in the claw filled circle with no big setbacks except that they were slightly slower than usual. XD

It's freaking awesome. Unfortunately, there is no known way to debuff yourself in speed, so you can only abuse this if your opponent debuffs your speed for some reason.

silly; That's freaking awesome.
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I wonder if it would work if you overbuffed speed...

I've also been wondering if you could underbuff something, debuff it so much it falls through and actually rises.
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Broadswordbearer,Dec 6 2007
10:42 PM
I wonder if it would work if you overbuffed speed...

I've also been wondering if you could underbuff something, debuff it so much it falls through and actually rises.

Yeah. You can underbuff the hidden stats and they'll eventually reach a point where they go over and raise.
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*cha-ching*

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IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?
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GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
12:28 AM
IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?

Either way, I still discovered the counter to Swamp abyss, which countless pro's have said did not exist, so that's definitely worth something.

Also, everyone's playing style is different, so just because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.
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NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:16 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
12:28 AM
IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i  abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?

Either way, I still discovered the counter to Swamp abyss, which countless pro's have said did not exist, so that's definitely worth something.

Also, everyone's playing style is different, so just because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

most people with an actual brain probably wouldnt. "swamp abyss lowers the speed to 0 anyway. so why debuff?"
it is impossible by only ur meens on trying. i found out why this glitch works though. at least i think i do.
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GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
03:27 AM
NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:16 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
12:28 AM
IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i  abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?

Either way, I still discovered the counter to Swamp abyss, which countless pro's have said did not exist, so that's definitely worth something.

Also, everyone's playing style is different, so just because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

most people with an actual brain probably wouldnt. "swamp abyss lowers the speed to 0 anyway. so why debuff?"
it is impossible by only ur meens on trying. i found out why this glitch works though. at least i think i do.

FALSE.

Example: Enemy debuffs my isaac's speed. I bring in my hounds. He cast's swamp abyss to keep me from moving closer to him.
Since Isaac is speed debuffed, he can prance on through the swamp abyss like nobody's business. No more annoying ground hindrance for isaac, so I can now get closer to him, catching him off guard and maybe launch an ice king or something, if the opportunity presents itself.
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NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:35 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
03:27 AM
NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:16 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
12:28 AM
IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i  abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?

Either way, I still discovered the counter to Swamp abyss, which countless pro's have said did not exist, so that's definitely worth something.

Also, everyone's playing style is different, so just because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

most people with an actual brain probably wouldnt. "swamp abyss lowers the speed to 0 anyway. so why debuff?"
it is impossible by only ur meens on trying. i found out why this glitch works though. at least i think i do.

FALSE.

Example: Enemy debuffs my isaac's speed. I bring in my hounds. He cast's swamp abyss to keep me from moving closer to him.
Since Isaac is speed debuffed, he can prance on through the swamp abyss like nobody's business. No more annoying ground hindrance for isaac, so I can now get closer to him, catching him off guard and maybe launch an ice king or something, if the opportunity presents itself.

who would debuff isaacs speed? doesnt matter if its 1 unit or 9 units i would still swamp
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I wonder if the glitch would work if you overbuffed speed.

Anyone willing to try it?
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Broadswordbearer,Dec 8 2007
06:25 PM
I wonder if the glitch would work if you overbuffed speed.

Anyone willing to try it?

taking a guess the glitch works like this, swamp abyss lowers it by its original speed + any boosts. but, it doesnt do debuffs, so when it goes to 0, then adds on he debuff...wait, that goes into negatives! so it negates the swamp abyss
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GL1TCH3D,Dec 8 2007
10:48 PM
NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:35 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
03:27 AM
NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:16 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
12:28 AM
IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i  abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?

Either way, I still discovered the counter to Swamp abyss, which countless pro's have said did not exist, so that's definitely worth something.

Also, everyone's playing style is different, so just because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

most people with an actual brain probably wouldnt. "swamp abyss lowers the speed to 0 anyway. so why debuff?"
it is impossible by only ur meens on trying. i found out why this glitch works though. at least i think i do.

FALSE.

Example: Enemy debuffs my isaac's speed. I bring in my hounds. He cast's swamp abyss to keep me from moving closer to him.
Since Isaac is speed debuffed, he can prance on through the swamp abyss like nobody's business. No more annoying ground hindrance for isaac, so I can now get closer to him, catching him off guard and maybe launch an ice king or something, if the opportunity presents itself.

who would debuff isaacs speed? doesnt matter if its 1 unit or 9 units i would still swamp

Mana costs.
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NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 8 2007
11:50 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 8 2007
10:48 PM
NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:35 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
03:27 AM
NotAnEvilGenius,Dec 6 2007
10:16 PM
GL1TCH3D,Dec 7 2007
12:28 AM
IMO this doesnt change anything. since you cannot debuff speed by urself it is useless to try. i dont debuff peoples speed so when i  abyss someone they cant glitch.

for me an actually useful glitch would be a glitch that can be used be urself. what are the chances someone is going to debuff you then swamp abyss?

Either way, I still discovered the counter to Swamp abyss, which countless pro's have said did not exist, so that's definitely worth something.

Also, everyone's playing style is different, so just because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

most people with an actual brain probably wouldnt. "swamp abyss lowers the speed to 0 anyway. so why debuff?"
it is impossible by only ur meens on trying. i found out why this glitch works though. at least i think i do.

FALSE.

Example: Enemy debuffs my isaac's speed. I bring in my hounds. He cast's swamp abyss to keep me from moving closer to him.
Since Isaac is speed debuffed, he can prance on through the swamp abyss like nobody's business. No more annoying ground hindrance for isaac, so I can now get closer to him, catching him off guard and maybe launch an ice king or something, if the opportunity presents itself.

who would debuff isaacs speed? doesnt matter if its 1 unit or 9 units i would still swamp

Mana costs.

so?
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